i the draconian country i mentioned people who carry guns illegally are hanged but people caught stealing are not deprived of their hands
but my point is it is almost impossible to find someone carrying a gun illegally
but i must qualify by saying that it is a small country and it is much easier to enforce such a law
my point is still this: that the authority must be hard on people using the gun illegally and for crime

I'm going to post an article about handguns. You may disagree.

Sorry I sooooo disagree, Toronto is still Toronto the good. The TTC is one of the safest subway systems in the world. There are similar incidences world wide, and here is where I do agree with you, the only point of a handgun is to kill human beings. They are not used to kill game (food) and have been designed with only one object in mind, and that is to end human life. Tighten up the gun laws even further by making it totally illegal to own a hand gun (quite your whining about target shooting, that's just bs - use an air gun). The guns need to be in the hands of the police and no one else, and even they need to be vetted on a much tougher basis.